How Podcasting Can Connect You to New People and Opportunities with Lauren Fulton [Ep. 93]
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Here’s what to expect from this episode:
Do you remember why you started your podcast?
We all start our shows for different reasons, and sometimes, it doesn't go as planned. Maybe it takes longer than expected to build that momentum, or maybe you've struggled to keep up with episodes more than you thought you would. But sometimes, it helps us grow our business in ways that we didn't anticipate.
Lauren Fulton, the host of The Rebranded Teacher podcast, is on the show today to share her experience with podcasting. She shares how it's opened new doors for her in her business and how she decided that it was something she wanted to stick with long term.
We also talk about the upcoming Teacher Seller's Summit she's co-hosting July 6th through 9th. I am one of the presenters at this summit, and I'm so excited; the lineup of speakers is absolutely amazing. Early bird registration is open NOW, so be sure to check out the resources below for the link to learn more and get registered.
All right, let's meet Lauren!
MEET LAUREN:
Lauren Fulton has been selling on TpT since 2016. In 2021, she launched a course for teacher-authors and then her podcast, The Rebranded Teacher podcast, a few months later. She converted her course into a membership in 2022.
Lauren's goal is to help teacher-authors in any way she can: through her free podcast, YouTube channel, paid membership, or events like The Teacher Seller's Summit. And her podcast has been a crucial part of helping her reach that goal.
Topics Covered:
Audio versus video podcasting
The challenges of launching and patiently growing a podcast
The (approximate) turning point of Lauren's show
Connecting with people through virtual summits
The value of building relationships and having authentic conversations
The Teacher Seller's Summit!
Resources mentioned:
Find ALL the info and sign up for The Teacher Seller's Summit
Learn more about the most recent Spring Fling and get excited for next year!
The Rebranded Teacher: Growing a Successful TpT Business with Shelly Rees
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Sara Whittaker 0:00
We all start podcasts for different reasons. And sometimes it doesn't go as planned. Maybe it takes longer than expected to build that momentum. Or maybe you struggled to keep up with episodes more than you thought you would. And sometimes it helps us grow our business in ways that we didn't anticipate. Lauren Fulton is on the show today to share her experience with podcasting, and how it's opened new doors for her in her business, plus how long it took for her to determine that it was something she wanted to stick with long term. We also talked about the upcoming teacher seller summit that she's co hosting July 6 through ninth. I am one of the presenters at this summit. I'm so excited. The lineup of speakers is absolutely amazing. And earlybird registration is open now. So I will leave the link for you to get registered into a show notes. All right, let's go talk to Lauren. Your Podcast is a powerful tool that serves your audience and your business. But how do you manage it all bring in new listeners and convert those listeners into customers. That's what this show is all about. Welcome to podcasting for educators. I'm Sara Whitaker, classroom teacher turn podcast manager. And I'm here to help you get the most out of your show, all while making an impact on other educators. All right, we are back here with Lauren Lauren, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for being here.
Lauren Fulton 1:26
Hey, Sarah, thank you so much for having me. Of course, I
Sara Whittaker 1:29
was just telling Lauren before we jumped on that I have a few of you if you're listening who are in my course community, you rave about Lauren, and talk about how wonderful her membership is. And her podcast. I've listened to your podcast as well. So I'm just super grateful for you to be here today and share your experience with podcasting.
Lauren Fulton 1:48
I'm so excited. I don't really get to chat podcasting very often. So this is gonna be really fun.
Sara Whittaker 1:52
Yes, it will be. So let's while we're on that topic, let's just go ahead and dive right in. I would love to hear why you decided to start a podcast in the first place. Oh,
Lauren Fulton 2:04
gosh, you know, well, I started my podcast probably about two years ago. And I started it because I had just launched a course. And at that point, the only thing that I had that was bringing in an audience was Instagram. And then I had a Facebook group. And I had a couple of like really old videos on YouTube as well, but I wasn't really making any new videos for YouTube. So I knew that I needed a way to connect with an audience for people to be able to find me organically. And I didn't really want it to be Instagram. And, you know, I'm the type of person that like I like for things to be as passive as they can possibly be. I also really enjoy podcasts from the listener side, because I enjoy being able to feel like you have that connection with someone, even though you're just listening to them in your car. But I'm a big fan of podcasting from the listener perspective. So I thought, well, you know, having it from the other side, I think would be really fun too. And I felt like it was gonna be a really good fit for me to have my own podcast and not Yeah, not have to be constantly showing up on Instagram with a full face of makeup. Yes, coming up with ideas for things to talk about. And then that way, it was just like once a week, I could sit down, I could batch them out if I wanted to. And I just felt like it was going to be better for me long term. So that's kind of what got me into podcasting. And that was back in 2021, I think May of 2021.
Sara Whittaker 3:33
Awesome. I always love hearing just like what people's initial thoughts were before they started. And so many people say that, you know, they want to connect with people, but they don't want to be on Instagram 24/7. And that's me, too. That was one of my big reasons for starting as well. Sometimes people ask me, Are you going to put your podcasts on YouTube? And I'm like, No, I love being able to just like, have my hair up, be in sweats or whatever. YouTube's like a different beast, maybe one day, but I like just being able to show up however I want and whatever I want. Yeah, absolutely. Are you on YouTube?
Lauren Fulton 4:09
I'm on YouTube now. So in 2022 and January of 2022. I was like, You know what, if I'm recording the content, I might as well put it on YouTube. The only real difference for me was that I was actually having to look at the camera and I couldn't like close my eyes and talk. So there are a few more takes now it takes me a little bit longer because you know, I might make a funny face when I'm saying something and then like, oh, I can't you know have that. But for the most part, it's the same content. It takes about the same amount of time to produce it and edit it very much different for or much differently for YouTube than I do for podcasting. But podcasting is where my most of my audience is. So yeah,
Sara Whittaker 4:51
yeah, that's awesome. No, that's super interesting that you're on YouTube. And so do you put your full episode on there and put the full episode Yeah, yeah. Cool. And have you picked up? Like, is there a lot of engagement that you get on there?
Lauren Fulton 5:05
I mean, it's roughly probably like a third to it depends. So I think the interesting thing about YouTube is that in general, a video on YouTube is gonna get about a third, as many views in, say, the first 90 days, as the podcast episode will. But over time, it tends to kind of pick up. The other thing about it is that like, with podcasting, like, you're probably not gonna have a podcast go viral. And I'm kind of putting this in quotation marks, because for sure, I've never had anything go viral. But there are some things that like, you know, I'll have YouTube videos that I'll put out, and all of a sudden, it's got like four or 5000 views on it. Whereas the podcast episode only has, you know, 1200 1500 downloads. So there's that potential there, when you put it out that it could kind of take off, where like, the podcast episode is probably not going to take off, it's just going to see be seen by whatever audience you have.
Sara Whittaker 6:03
Yeah, I know, that makes a lot of sense. And I mean, I think I think it's definitely worth it to go into it with that mindset of this is kind of like a long term strategy. And podcasting is to but that's a great point about the ability to maybe go viral, which feels like everybody would love to go viral at some point.
Lauren Fulton 6:21
Yeah, it is. It is kind of nice. And then also, like, I don't do with my podcasts, like, I don't monetize it. I don't do any advertisements or anything like that on there. But with YouTube now, I'm not making a lot of money on it, but it is monetized. And so, you know, it's your Starbucks money or what have you. And that is kind of nice. Yeah, yeah, no,
Sara Whittaker 6:38
that's super nice. I've actually heard of a lot of people recently saying that they've been able to start monetizing on YouTube. So that's awesome. Yeah. So I'd love to kind of go back in time a little bit to when you first started your show. What was that like for you? Did you run into any challenges? And did you feel like you saw success right away? Or did it take some time to build up that momentum?
Lauren Fulton 7:01
So I think I should start with the fact that I'm extremely tight be like, if I put out audio and it's not perfect, I don't think about it, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. It does not bother me if there are pops and cracks and things like that. So for sure there were mistakes in the beginning. But I probably can't really tell you what exactly they were because at this point, I didn't lose sleep over it. Like I was like, well, whatever, it's unlearning. And to this day, like, we put out a podcast episode, I think last week or even the week before and like, there was one point where like, there was a sound bite missing in the audio or something like that. And I was like, Oh, hmm. And just kind of like went on about like, don't figure out what that missing word was, you know, that kind of thing. So, yeah, there were lots of mistakes, but most of them are mistakes that I'm still making, like, I still don't have my website, my show notes are still not search engine optimized, like I still don't have any of that stuff that I should be doing with my podcast. But in the beginning. For sure. I didn't see the success that I'm not gonna see that I thought I was gonna see, because I had very low expectations, but it didn't take off like I thought it would. Yeah, like I kind of told myself, like, I'll give this six months. And if after six months, I'm not feeling it, then or it's not going anywhere, and then I'll probably quit. And so like I said, I started in May. So kind of like October, November, we were coming up on that six month mark. I think at that point in time, I was probably getting like 300 downloads an episode or something like that. And I was okay with that. Like, I was totally fine with it. But I was kind of coming up in the point in my career where I was like, do I really want to keep launching this course? Do I really want to keep putting out these weekly, like podcast episodes? Do I really want to keep up with all this content? Because if I'm going to keep the course then I do need to do this. Like, this is something I have to do. And I kind of hit a little Crossroads there. And something like for sure. Like I don't want to get too ahead of myself. But like, for sure I didn't at the end of six months. I was like, Yeah, I don't know that I really see this being something. And I'd love to tell you exactly what the turning point was. I'm not entirely sure what it was. But I can tell you that when I came back in 2022 I don't know if it was like, over break or what happened specifically, but it started just kind of catching on. And then I actually did you know I'm here to promote pro teacher seller summit, but I'll go ahead and throw a spring fling out there. I don't know when it's going to error, but I did Spring Fling and I know that you're doing Spring Fling as well.
Sara Whittaker 9:43
So was this last year? This was last year? Yeah, same. Yeah, I
Lauren Fulton 9:47
saw a huge boost in my downloads after spring fling. Yeah. And I was like, Okay, I'm on to something and that was at the same time that I launched my membership and just from then I was like okay, this says this is going to pay off. And that's when I really started to see kind of the doors and the windows open and kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel. So it took longer than six months. And I thought, I thought really at the end of six months, I'd be able to make a definitive decision. But I think one of the things that I learned from podcasting was that you really have to give it time and you have to give it opportunities. Like you can't just continue to put out episodes and not really create opportunities for yourself or take advantage of opportunities that are out there to advertise that podcast.
Sara Whittaker 10:29
Yes, oh my gosh, that's so well said. And I just love hearing your story. Because it is so important to know that especially like depending on where you're starting, if you like if you are somebody who's thinking about starting a podcast, or maybe you've recently started and you don't have much of an audience on Instagram, or you don't have much of an email list, your podcast is not going if you're just keeping doing things like the way that you've been doing them, your podcast is not going to just bring in this brand new audience out of nowhere, you do need to be putting yourself out there and doing things like virtual summits or podcast guessing, to grow your audience. And that's going to grow your podcast audience and it's going to grow your business as a whole. But it definitely takes time. And yeah, you have to understand that you have to be like taking these steps to be bringing new people into your world and to make people more aware of you. But I had a very similar experience with Spring Fling and other virtual summits that I've been a part of, it's such a good way to connect with new people and to build awareness around your podcast.
Lauren Fulton 11:34
Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's really great for them to be able to see your face too, because then there are people who have listened to your podcast before or maybe listened to a specific episode when there was a guest on but then they kind of forget about it. And it kind of gets lost in all of their subscriptions that show up and pop up in their feed every week, to just reminding them of who you are, and allowing them to see your face, I think really helps build that connection, too. That's kind of, I don't wanna say missing because you can build a connection with podcasting, but for sure, that element of them being able to see you and to picture your face when they're listening to you speak, I think is really, really helpful.
Sara Whittaker 12:10
Oh, yeah, I completely agree. And I also love just to backtrack, I love how you also mentioned that you're not necessarily doing all of the things that you quote, unquote, like should be doing, like the show notes, and leveraging SEO and all of that. But I think that's a really important conversation to have. And I've had some other guests on here, say the same thing. And it's okay, and you can still have a successful podcast without having everything perfectly set up. Like maybe you don't have a website yet. That doesn't mean that you can't start a podcast, you can start a podcast. And when you're ready, you can add that website. And when you're ready, you can add those show notes and start doing keyword research down the road. And you will have all of this great content that you can always go back and tweak. If you want to leverage it for SEO, you can do that. But you don't necessarily have to have all of those things from the very beginning.
Lauren Fulton 13:00
Yeah, and, you know, for me, I kind of sit there and I weigh the pros and cons like, I know that that would help me that those are things that would be beneficial for my business. And that would make take the content that I'm creating already and help it to have a greater impact. At the same time, I also know that I would feel very in over my head, and kind of like I'm treading water, right. And so I kind of sit there and I go, Okay, I know that this is something that I'm going to do. And I know that when I do it, I'm going to be like, I should have started this in the very beginning, you know, I'm going to kind of like myself, but for right now, this is what I can do without being stressed out. Or for now, this is what I can do without having anxiety revolving around something that I really enjoy doing. So for sure, like, I know, all of those things are important. But like, at the same time, I kind of just give myself grace because I want to enjoy myself. You know, I want to be happy while I'm doing
Sara Whittaker 13:54
it. So yeah, yeah, it's so important you want I mean, everybody, most people who start a podcast, one of the things they love about it is that it is fun. And if it's not feeling fun for you then like what can you do to take some of that stress away and make it a more enjoyable experience? For sure. Now, you mentioned Spring Fling, what other Have there been any other doors that have been open for you through podcasting? You know, for sure, like I'm not I've not been on a lot of other podcasts. I've
Lauren Fulton 14:22
been on Trina debris podcast, I just recorded an episode with Cinzia so I'll be on Cinzia DiMartino eels podcast for Facebook ads, and then this one, those are the only three podcasts I've ever been on. But so for me, it hasn't been so much like being a guest on other podcasts as having key guests on my own podcast. So finding people, not necessarily people who have an audience because people who have an audience don't necessarily they don't always use it and they don't always you know, broadcast or share, or seizo sometimes they do share and nothing Never really comes of it. But having people on that I really enjoy and that I really look up to and admire. For me one was Shelly Reese having Shelly Reese on the podcast did really I saw a little increase there. And yes, because she shared it, absolutely. But also, I felt like the really big thing was that I just so loved that episode. And I so enjoyed having her on the show that I was talking about it a whole lot more, and it came more natural to me. And, you know, sharing that with your audience, like, Hey, this is somebody that I've learned something from, and this is somebody that I really admire, kind of resonates with them in a way that that hits different. And so I've I've seen that for sure. Being specific with who I'm having on the podcast. And guesting according to people that I actually resonate with, and people that I'm learning from has made a difference.
Sara Whittaker 15:53
Yes, absolutely. I just love how you explained all of that, like having those real conversations with people that you really enjoy having on and that are, if you're enjoying it, your listeners are probably going to enjoy it too. And it's kind of filling, a lot of times guests can fill gaps where maybe they can speak about something, an experience they've had, or something that they're super knowledgeable about, that's going to help your audience but maybe you're not necessarily the right person to talk about it. So I just love that perspective. I think so many times I work with podcasters. And we help with their production. And so I've definitely had a lot of people who are choose, like really choosy about who they have on their show based on what that person's audience size is. And I always say like, some of the best guests are people who maybe aren't even on social media or they have 200 followers, it doesn't matter that doesn't that's not an indication of how great the conversation is gonna go.
Lauren Fulton 16:52
Absolutely, we did. I did a special right before actually a couple of special episodes with just people who were members of rebranded Teacher Academy. And they're just TPT sellers, right? They don't they don't have an audience specifically to other TPT sellers. And they didn't marketed as far as I know, I don't even know if they shared it. But even having those conversations really helped. And so it had really nothing to do with the size of their audience. It was just the fact that people enjoyed hearing from a panel of different sellers. And they were sharing that and just the organic conversations that were taking place. Did a lot for the podcast as well. And so it wasn't really it seems like you said it's not really, it doesn't really have anything to do with the size of the audience. It's just more of like the quality of the conversation. Yeah, 100%. And obviously, you
Sara Whittaker 17:41
don't go into that conversation with like, Oh, I'm having this conversation to like, grow my podcast, but indirectly it does. Because those are the conversations that really engage your listeners and make your listeners want to text their friend the link to this episode, because it was such a great conversation. And having I love I've had some of my course, course members on to this podcast, and it's just so fun. It's so fun to be able to connect with people and just talk about things that you love in business and share their experiences and just have that like really genuine conversation and bridge that gap between you and people in your community that maybe you might not have had the opportunity otherwise to speak with face to face virtually.
Lauren Fulton 18:26
Absolutely.
Sara Whittaker 18:28
Yeah, relationships are I always say our my favorite result of having a podcast is the relationships that you get to build with people. For sure. Yeah. So any other like, favorite things that have come out of podcasting for you? You do you use it now, you said you don't have like sponsors for your podcast, but do you use your podcast as a platform to share about things like your membership? Yes, absolutely.
Lauren Fulton 18:52
So I plug my membership probably in every single episode. And I'm not heavy on it. You know, I try not to be too I have nothing against being too salesy. But just like I'm, I usually don't even really think about it until after it's over. I'm like, Oh, I didn't plug that. Or maybe I didn't say this, you know, but there is for sure there's that benefit of being able to constantly remind my audience or remind people who are listening, that there is a place where they can go and they can learn more. And they can get additional help and additional support to help grow their business. So there's that benefit. There's also like you said, just the connections connecting with people we have and I know this is coming later in the episode, but teacher seller Summit is coming up. And so I've gotten to meet a lot of people that I never would have had a conversation with prior to this conference. And so like even you I knew about Sara Whittaker like I knew about you, but I didn't know you like I'd never met. Yeah. And there are a lot of people that I've sat down and had conversations with and I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is so cool. Like I'm learning so much as I'm talking to them. them. And so those connections for sure, have been really beneficial in growing my business, but also getting invited to do things and getting invited to be a part of things. You know, making those connections are super important.
Sara Whittaker 20:15
Yeah, I just think it's like the most important thing in our business. It opens up so many doors and it makes things more fun. It can be lonely, working from home owning your own business, and when you can connect and have that feeling of like, Oh, she gets it. She she's feeling the same way about this than I am. It's it's a nice Yeah, absolutely. Now we are going to talk about the teacher seller Summit. But before and I should have asked you this at the very beginning. Can you tell us about your podcasts? Like, what kind of topics you cover where when you release episodes, all of that?
Lauren Fulton 20:45
Yeah, yeah. So my podcast is the rebranded teacher. It's the only thing I think in my business, that's not my name. So everywhere else, I'm my name, like Lauren Fulton, but it's the rebranded teacher. And we just talk about teacher business owner things, primarily TPT. But the further along I get in my business, the more I realized how important it is to build your own brand and build your own business, and have a business that sells resources on TPT not have a TPT business. So we talked about that a lot, too. So we talked about email marketing, we talked about which is my favorite. So we talked about email marketing, we talked about, you know, writing, copy, connecting with your audience, creating unique and amazing resources, and lots of marketing strategies and things like that. So it's every Monday comes out at 4am. If you are a YouTube person, it actually comes out the day before on no to that. Yeah. So it comes out on Sundays on YouTube. And then Mondays at four o'clock in the morning. And yeah, lots of lots of amazing guest interviews that are going to be coming up. But yeah, just it's a good time.
Sara Whittaker 21:53
Awesome. Yeah, I've tuned in and it is fantastic. It's such a great resource. And I think so many people are starting to diversify their income and think about how they can expand out of TPT because there are so many other opportunities. So all of those conversations, email marketing, we all need support with that. Yeah. Myself included. Yeah, same. Feel like email marketing is something that I don't know of a lot of podcasts that focus on email marketing. Do you know of any do you have any favorites?
Lauren Fulton 22:27
I you know, I'm trying to think off the top of my head. I, I don't listen to a lot of TPT seller specific podcasts, but I just kind of listen to Amy Porterfield, like whatever Amy Porterfield is doing, like I'm listening to that or like Pat Flynn. So whenever they're talking about email marketing, I'm usually listening to that. Yeah, but yeah, besides that I really talked to like Melissa seidelman. Yeah, I've had conversations with her. I also have like a friend Megan wisdom. She's done a lot of copywriting work for me before and she's really incredible when it comes to email marketing as well. So, but I don't think Melissa has a podcast but I don't think
Sara Whittaker 23:05
so either. Yeah, yeah, but she's a great resource. I've heard her on some other podcasts before. Awesome. Now let's talk about the teacher sellers Summit. Tell us like what it is when it's happening. All the details. Oh, my
Lauren Fulton 23:18
gosh, it's gonna be amazing. First of all, and you know, it's this is not myself. I'm not the only one putting it on Brooklyn. McCarley from Brooklyn's brightest. That's her TPT store. She and I She's my business partner in many different business ventures. So and I don't do anything without her anymore. She's actually has not been in the TPT seller helper world. But I like I said, I just don't do anything without her because she's absolutely indispensable. And she's incredible. So she and I are hosting this. But the best part about this are the presenters that we have lined up. And we have over 40 prisoners. You're one of them. Yeah, we have so many incredible people Megan wisdom that I mentioned before, and Melissa Seidman and Farrah Henley is going to be one of our keynote speakers. Kristen Doyle, Aaron waters. Oh my gosh, we have Tyra Frederick. She is going to be sharing about how to list your resources on Shopify. We have melody Munch from Mrs. munches. munchkins she's gonna be talking about being an Instagram influencer. We have people talking about writing sales funnels. That's Alyssa MacDonald. She's going to be doing sales funnels. We have people talking about selling on out school, we have people talking about starting your own freelancing business. You're talking about different types of podcasts that you can do, which I'm really excited about the private podcasting that you're going to be talking about. I'm super stoked for that. Me too. And speaking of that, that's gonna be one of the features. You actually sent me a message and we're like, Hey, have you thought about making the sessions a private podcast? And so you'll be able to listen to sessions on the go. They're going to be part of a private podcast. So we're also going to have q&a panels. So we're splitting people up into like marketing, diversifying your income streams like social media, things like that. And we're going to have panels, live panels where you can show up and you can ask questions. We're going to have virtual get togethers with other TPT sellers. It's literally going to be the best virtual conference for teacher business owners, I think, of 2023, for sure.
Sara Whittaker 25:29
Or maybe all time, maybe all time. Absolutely, absolutely. Seriously that I remember the first time I saw you post about it, like the lineup of speakers is absolutely amazing. It covers like every aspect that you could possibly want in your business. And I cannot tell you how happy I am about the private podcast. And if you all have never listened to a private podcast, you're going to be so happy because you can listen to it in your car. You can listen to all of these sessions. I think that's like the hardest thing about summit sometimes is you sign up and everything sounds great. But then you never actually have time to listen to everything and watch everything. So absolutely able to consume a lot more. I'm so excited. Y'all are doing that. Yeah,
Lauren Fulton 26:09
I'm so excited that you mentioned it because that was never a thought in my mind until you said it. I was like II that's perfect to do that. Absolutely.
Sara Whittaker 26:17
I love it. So did you already say the dates, it's going
Lauren Fulton 26:20
to be July 6 through the ninth tickets go on sale April 1. So I'm not sure when this is going to air but April 1 through the end of April. So the 30th There'll be early bird pricing of $75, which is just I mean, it's cheaper than the virtual conference for TPT. And then after that, it'll be 99. So still extremely affordable. And while the main conference like the events and everything that are going to be happening will be the sixth through the ninth, you'll have access to the content for a several months.
Sara Whittaker 26:50
Awesome. And yes, this will air during like the registration period. So I'll have all of the information about how to get signed up in the show notes. But I'm super excited. I'm so thrilled to be able to be a part of it and to learn from everybody who's presenting me too. It's gonna be great. Well, Lauren, thank you so much for just sharing your experience about podcasting and sharing about the summit. Can you just let people know in case they don't already follow you on Instagram or anywhere else? Where can people find you?
Lauren Fulton 27:21
Yeah, so on my podcast, I'm the rebranded teacher on Instagram at the Lauren Fulton, and on YouTube. I'm Lauren Fulton. And if you're interested in joining rebranded Teacher Academy, like we do monthly challenges and strategy sessions together, we have co working sessions, it's extremely affordable $24 a month, you get access to my entire course and content library. Um, you can learn more about that at the rebranded teacher.com. Or you can just tune in to podcasts, learn more about me and learn more about the membership as you go.
Sara Whittaker 27:54
Perfect. And like I said earlier, I know people who are part of your membership and just absolutely love it. So definitely check that out. Lauren, thank you so much again, it was great chatting with you today.
Lauren Fulton 28:05
Thank you, Sarah. Sure. Appreciate it.
Sara Whittaker 28:08
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